Horrible Fuel Mileage

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My96Tahoe

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I have a 96 Tahoe, and I am experiencing horrible fuel mileage!!! I have a check engine light - showing a bad catalytic converter. But, does this give me under 5 mpg? Also - do I have to replace them or can I just cut them out! Any or ALL help will be appreciated!:Insane:
 

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The converter could be plugged up, replacing the converter only could lead to premature converter failure of the new one.....

Check your fuel pressure and bleed off, you may have a leaking FPR and or Spider assembly...
 

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if you decide it isnt the catalytic isnt the problem try doing seafoam its in the how to section of the forums
 

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cut out the cats they just restrict airflow and sell them. I did that and man what a difference. I didnt sell them becasue they seemed pretty clear and since I live in CA you know how they are here.
 

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A bad cat can give bad mileage, as well as bad 02 sensors since they regulate the air to fuel mixture of your truck. Reading a few posts on here, a bad 02 sensor sometimes doesnt trip the CEL so its hard to tell but check your state laws on emmissions and if they allow vehicles over a certain age to be catless. Simply cutting out a bad cat wont fix the problem your having.
 

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Hey just had a similar problem on my 99 Tahoe. Was throwing p420 and p3xx codes, thought i needed a new cat. Horrible gas mileage was getting 182 miles a tank. Replaced the plugs, wires, cap, and rotor. Fixed the SES light and mileage went up to 16 city. Not sure if that will help but it's worth a shot.
 

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Hey just had a similar problem on my 99 Tahoe. Was throwing p420 and p3xx codes, thought i needed a new cat. Horrible gas mileage was getting 182 miles a tank. Replaced the plugs, wires, cap, and rotor. Fixed the SES light and mileage went up to 16 city. Not sure if that will help but it's worth a shot.

All of those are great tips for increasing gas mileage. I also dump a half bottle of Sea Foam in the tank every other time I fill it. It increased the life of my tanks about 20-30 miles.
 
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... bad 02 sensors since they regulate the air to fuel mixture of your truck.

+1 though they don't regulate the air to fuel mixture, but I recon I know what you mean, the 02 sensors are tadle tells they norc on you, basically say hey, I am getting too much fuel (running rich) or I am getting too much air (running lean), anytime you are dealing with a sensor, it does just that just senses what is going on but can only tell the computer that, it doesn't regulate anything on it's own, it's not a valve or solenoid, then it is up to the computer to send a signal to the fuel injectors or the idle air control valve, or any other valve or solenoid to actually do something, that's why sometimes you replace the 02 sensors and it doesn't fix the problem, because they are not bad, they are telling the computer something is wrong but it's the valves job to do something about it, and it's the valve of sorts that is out to lunch

keep in mind when the car is cold and just warming up, it is in what is called an Open Loop meaning, it is not listening to any of the sensors it is kinda running on best guess pre programmed mode, it kinda knows what to do on automatic pilot, than after lets say 8 - 12 minutes (this really depends on conditions) it says ok, I've heated up the catalytic converter, I got my coolant nice and hot, lets go boys, what you got for me, and it goes into Closed Loop and starts listening to the oxygen sensors, the water temp sensor, the throttle position sensor, the air temp sensor, the Mass Air Flow meter (very important), but then when you floor it and go open throttle it once again says, forget you oxygen sensors, I give up, and stops listening to the O2 sensors and says you want power you got power but we're gonna run rich, and get ****ty fuel economy

apologies for the lengthy post
 

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Thats what I meant by Regulate....The O2 Sensors monitor the Air and fuel in the exhaust and tells the Computer to adjust those settings based on its reading. Typically, bad gas mileage and a clogged cat may indicate an O2 Sensor is not doing its job. A dealer can hook up a Tech II and read your fuel trims to see if your O2 sensors are working properly and the voltage output on the sensors are within normal range.
 

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Dont need a tech 2 to read fuel trims and such from the O2's, you can use a DMM, you can use a cheap scantool, a software based tool/cable... etc.
 

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Dont need a tech 2 to read fuel trims and such from the O2's, you can use a DMM, you can use a cheap scantool, a software based tool/cable... etc.

+1 but not knowing the technical ability of the OP, I figured an experienced technician who knows how to read the trims and voltage of the sensors would be helpful. :waytogo:
 

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True that, but OP hasnt posted since Feb, plus it was his only post, so he is MIA.....
 
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